the memorabilia-第29章
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Soc。 By heaven! yes; only then we shall be including the commonest
sources of mischief which befall mankind。 How many are ruined by their
fair faces at the hand of admireres driven to distraction'54' by the
sight of beauty in its bloom! how many; tempted by their strength to
essay deeds beyond their power; are involved in no small evils! how
many; rendered effeminate by reason of their wealth; have been plotted
against and destroyed!'55' how many through fame and political power
have suffered a world of woe!
'54' Cf。 Plat。 〃Rep。〃 vii。 517 D; 〃Phaedr。〃 249 D。
'55' e。g。 Alcibiades。
Well (the youth replied) if I am not even right in praising happiness;
I must confess I know not for what one ought to supplicate the gods in
prayer。'56'
'56' See above for Socrates' own form of supplication。
Nay; these are matters (proceeded Socrates) which perhaps; through
excessive confidence in your knowledge of them; you have failed to
examine into; but since the state; which you are preparing yourself to
direct; is democratically constituted;'57' of course you know what a
democracy is。
'57' Or; 〃popularly governed。〃
Euth。 I presume I do; decidedly。
Soc。 Well; now; is it possible to know what a popular state is without
knowing who the people are?
Euth。 Certainly not。
Soc。 And whom do you consider to be the people?
Euth。 The poor citizens; I should say。
Soc。 Then you know who the poor are; of course?
Euth。 Of course I do。
Soc。 I presume you also know who the rich are?
Euth。 As certainly as I know who are the poor。
Soc。 Whom do you understand by poor and rich?
Euth。 By poor I mean those who have not enough to pay for their
necessaries;'58' and by rich those who have more means than sufficient
for all their needs。
'58' Al。 〃who cannot contribute their necessary quota to the taxes
(according to the census)。〃
Soc。 Have you noticed that some who possess a mere pittance not only
find this sufficient; but actually succeed in getting a surplus out of
it; while others do not find a large fortune large enough?
I have; most certainly; and I thank you for the reminder (replied
Euthydemus)。 One has heard of crowned heads and despotic rulers being
driven by want to commit misdeeds like the veriest paupers。
Then; if that is how matters stand (continued Socrates); we must class
these same crowned heads with the commonalty; and some possessors of
scant fortunes; provided they are good economists; with the wealthy?
Then Euthydemus: It is the poverty of my own wit which forces me to
this admission。 I bethink me it is high time to keep silence
altogether; a little more; and I shall be proved to know absolutely
nothing。 And so he went away crestfallen; in an agony of self…
contempt; persuaded that he was verily and indeed no better than a
slave。
Amongst those who were reduced to a like condition by Socrates; many
refused to come near him again; whom he for his part looked upon as
dolts and dullards。'59' But Euthydemus had the wit to understand that;
in order to become worthy of account; his best plan was to associate
as much as possible with Socrates; and from that moment; save for some
necessity; he never left himin some points even imitating him in his
habits and pursuits。 Socrates; on his side; seeing that this was the
young man's disposition; disturbed him as little as possible; but in
the simplest and plainest manner initiated him into everything which
he held to be needful to know or important to practise。
'59' Or; 〃as people of dull intelligence and sluggish temperament。〃
Cf。 Plat。 〃Gorg。〃 488 A。
III
It may be inferred that Socrates was in no hurry for those who were
with him to discover capacities for speech and action or as inventive
geniuses;'1' without at any rate a well…laid foundation of self…
control。'2' For those who possessed such abilities without these same
saving virtues would; he believed; only become worse men with greater
power for mischief。 His first object was to instil into those who were
with him a wise spirit in their relation to the gods。'3' That such was
the tenor of his conversation in dealing with men may be seen from the
narratives of others who were present on some particular occasion。'4'
I confine myself to a particular discussion with Euthydemus at which I
was present。
'1' Or; 〃as speakers〃 (see ch。 vi。 below); 〃and men of action〃 (see
ch。 v。 below); 〃or as masters of invention〃 (see ch。 vii。 below)。
'2' Or; 〃but as prior to those excellences must be engrafted in them
{sophrosune} (the virtues of temperance and sanity of soul)。〃
'3' Lit。 〃His first object and endeavour was to make those who were
with him {sophronas} (sound of soul) as regards the gods。〃
'4' Reading after Herbst; Cobet; etc。; {diegountai}; or if vulg。
{diegounto}; translate; 〃from the current accounts penned during
his lifetime by the other witnesses。〃 For {alloi} see K。 Joel; op。
cit。 pp。 15; 23; above; 〃Mem。〃 I。 iv。 1。
Socrates said:'5' Tell me; Euthydemus; has it ever struck you to
observe what tender pains the gods have taken to furnish man with all
his needs?
'5' For the subject matter of this 〃teleological〃 chapter; see above;
I。 iv。; K。 Joel; op。 cit。 Appendix; p。 547 foll。 in ref。 to
Dummler's views。
Euth。 No indeed; I cannot say that it has ever struck me。
Well (Socrates cotinued); you do not need to be reminded that; in the
first place; we need light; and with light the gods supply us。
Euth。 Most true; and if we had not got it we should; as far as our own
eyes could help us; be like men born blind。
Soc。 And then; again; seeing that we stand in need of rest and
relaxation; they bestow upon us 〃the blessed balm of silent night。〃'6'
'6' {kalliston anapauterion}。 The diction throughout is 〃poetical。〃
Yes (he answered); we are much beholden for that boon。
Soc。 Then; forasmuch as the sun in his splendour makes manifest to us
the hours of the day and bathes all things in brightness; but anon
night in her darkness obliterates distinctions; have they not
displayed aloft the starry orbs; which inform us of the watches of the
night; whereby we can accomplish many of our needs?'7'
'7' e。g。 for temple orientation see Dr。 Penrose quoted by Norman
Lockyer; 〃Nature;〃 August 31。 1893。
It is so (he answered)。
Soc。 And let us not forget that the moon herself not only makes clear
to us the quarters of the night; but of the month also?
Certainly (he answered)。
Soc。 And what of this: that whereas we need nutriment; this too the
heavenly powers yield us? Out of earth's bosom they cause good to
spring up'8' for our benefit; and for our benefit provide appropriate
seasons to furnish us in turn not only with the many and diverse
objects of need; but with the sources also of our joy and gladness?'9'
'8' Cf。 Plat。 〃Laws;〃 747 D。
'9' Or; 〃pleasure。〃
Yes (he answered earerly); these things bear token truly to a love for
man。'10'
'10' Cf。 Plat。 〃Laws;〃 713 D; 〃Symp。〃 189 D。 〃These things are signs
of a beneficient regard for man。〃
Soc。 Well; and what of another priceless gift; that of water; which
conspires with earth and the seasons to give both birth and increase
to all things useful to us; nay; which helps to nurture our very
selves; and commingling with all that feeds us; renders it more
digestible; more wholesome; and more pleasant to the taste; and mark
you in proportion to the abundance of our need the superabundance of
its supply。 What say you concerning such a boon?
Euth。 In this again I see a sign of providential care。
Soc。 And then the fact that the same heavenly power has provided us
with fire'11'our assistant against cold; our auxiliary in darkness;
our fellow…workman in every art and every instrument which for the
sake of its utility mortal man may invent or furnish himself withal。
What of this; since; to put it compendiously; there is nothing
serviceable to the life of man worth speaking of but owes its
fabrication to fire?'12'
'11' Lit。 〃and then the fact that they made provision for us of even
fire〃; the credit of this boon; according to Hesiod; being due to
Prometheus。
'12' Or; 〃no life…aiding appliance worthy of the name。〃
Euth。 Yes; a transcendent instance of benevolent design。'13'
'13' Or; 〃Yes; that may be called an extreme instance of the divine
'philanthropy。'〃 Cf。 Cic。 〃de N。 D。〃 ii。 62。
Soc。 Again; consider the motions of the Sun;'14' how when he has
turned him about in winter'15' he again draws nigh to us; ripening
some fruits; and causing others whose time is past to dry up; how when
he has fulfilled his work he comes no closer; but turns away as if in
fear to scorch us to our hurt unduly; and again; when he has reached a
point where if he should prolong his reatreat we should plainly be
frozen to death with cold; note how he turns him about and resumes his
approach; traversing that region of the heavens where he may shed his
genial influence best upon us。
'14' A single MS。 inserts a passage {to de kai era 。 。 。
'Anekphraston}。
'15' i。e。 as we say; 〃after the winter solstice。〃
Yes; upon my word (he answered); these occurrences bear the impress of
being so ordered for the sake of man。
Soc。 And then; again; it being manifest that we could not endure
either scorching heat or freezing cold if they came suddenly upon us;
note how gradually the sun approaches; and how gradually recedes; so
that we fail to notice how we come at last to either extreme。'16'
'16' Or; 〃note the gradual approach and gradual recession of the sun…
god; so gradual that we reach either extreme in a manner
imperceptibly; and before we are aware of its severity。〃
For my part (he replied); the question forces itself upon my mind;
whether the gods have any other occupation save only to minister to
man; and I am only hindered from saying so; because the rest of
animals would seem to share these benefits along with man。
Soc。 Why; to be sure; and is it not plain that these animals
themselves are born and bred for the sake of man? At any rate; no
living creature save man derives so many of his enjoyments from sheep
and goats; horses and cattle and asses; and other animals。 He is more
dependent; I should suppose; on these than even on plants and
vegetables。 At any rate; equally with these latter they serve him as
means of subsistence or articles of commerce; indeed; a large portion
of the human family do not use the products of the soil as food at
all; but live on the milk and cheese and flesh of their flocks and
herds; whilst all men everywhere tame and domesticate the more useful
kinds of animals; and turn them to account as fellow…workers in war
and for other purposes。
Yes; I cannot but agree with what you say (he answered); when I see
that animals so much stronger than man become so subservient to his
hand that he can use them as he lists。
Soc。 And as we reflect on the infinite beauty and utility and the
variety of nature; what are we to say of the fact that man has been
endowed with sensibilities which correspond with this diversity;
whereby we take our fill of every blessing;'17' or; again; this
implanted faculty of reasoning; wh